http://roguebasin.com/index.php?title=User_talk:R2&feed=atom&action=historyUser talk:R2 - Revision history2024-03-29T01:09:27ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.36.0http://roguebasin.com/index.php?title=User_talk:R2&diff=13637&oldid=prevJeffLait: /* (standardization of dates) */2008-07-28T15:36:42Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">(standardization of dates)</span></span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::: Well, dates were mostly standarized before you began your work and this is why many are cautious. Better is the enemy of good. Anyway, great job. Now if community becomes bored with reading dates right-to-left we may just send a bot. For now I have added IRLDb here: [[Links]]. <b><i>[[User:Ancient|–Michal Bielinski]]<sup>[[User_talk:Ancient|Talk]]</sup></i></b> 21:15, 27 July 2008 (CEST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::: Well, dates were mostly standarized before you began your work and this is why many are cautious. Better is the enemy of good. Anyway, great job. Now if community becomes bored with reading dates right-to-left we may just send a bot. For now I have added IRLDb here: [[Links]]. <b><i>[[User:Ancient|–Michal Bielinski]]<sup>[[User_talk:Ancient|Talk]]</sup></i></b> 21:15, 27 July 2008 (CEST)</div></td></tr>
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</table>JeffLaithttp://roguebasin.com/index.php?title=User_talk:R2&diff=13629&oldid=prevScautura: /* (standardization of dates) */2008-07-27T19:47:55Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">(standardization of dates)</span></span></p>
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</table>Scauturahttp://roguebasin.com/index.php?title=User_talk:R2&diff=13628&oldid=prevAncient at 19:15, 27 July 20082008-07-27T19:15:06Z<p></p>
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</table>Ancienthttp://roguebasin.com/index.php?title=User_talk:R2&diff=13624&oldid=prevR2 at 16:41, 27 July 20082008-07-27T16:41:28Z<p></p>
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</table>R2http://roguebasin.com/index.php?title=User_talk:R2&diff=13616&oldid=prevAncient at 14:36, 27 July 20082008-07-27T14:36:39Z<p></p>
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</table>Stuhttp://roguebasin.com/index.php?title=User_talk:R2&diff=13614&oldid=prevAncient: IRLDb - own opinion2008-07-27T03:50:32Z<p>IRLDb - own opinion</p>
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</table>Ancienthttp://roguebasin.com/index.php?title=User_talk:R2&diff=13602&oldid=prevZzo38 at 03:45, 25 July 20082008-07-25T03:45:11Z<p></p>
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</table>Zzo38http://roguebasin.com/index.php?title=User_talk:R2&diff=13601&oldid=prevKiefer: added note2008-07-25T03:22:55Z<p>added note</p>
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</table>Kieferhttp://roguebasin.com/index.php?title=User_talk:R2&diff=13600&oldid=prevZzo38 at 17:34, 24 July 20082008-07-24T17:34:42Z<p></p>
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